Who Do Non Kilkenny People Want To Win?

[mealone42]

I'm from Dublin and actually want Waterford to win. No offence to KK as I respect them in their domination of the Hurley Championship over the last few years, but for me it comes down to who I'd prefer watch and Kilkenny's tactics, for me, are underhand. Waterford play the glamour ball. Give me Mullane running at defences way ahead of Shefflin holding a hurley and making a big catch.

That being said, I'd rather see an entertaining draw than a borefest Waterford win. Kilkenny have the tendency to ruin All Ireland finals (good tactics, but very negative to the game), so the odds of something entertaining on the 7th September is very unlikely.

If you ask me, Kilkenny's tactics are a bigger threat to the game than the GPA and Cork player strikes combined.

Talking through your butt like all Dubs

[bould thady]

Waterford for me for 2 reasons:
I don't want Kilkenny to pass us out on the roll of honour
I would like to see the likes of Tony Brown,Ken McGrath,Dan Shanahan Mullane,Kelly get a medal before they finish their careers.
Having said that, this Kilkenny team is the best team that I have seen since I first started watching hurling 40 years ago.We will have our work cut out for us to keep up to ye over the next few years.Going on form,Kilkenny should win by 7 to 8 points.

[Byroncat]

I've been reading this site as a guest for the last few years but had to join in this week - the excitement is getting to me!! After Waterford threw away last years semi I'm glad we're having a craic at them this year - but its like the tension of 2 All Irelands rolled into one (no offence to Limerick) I think we'll win - hope to god we do cause H204rd wont let us hear the end of it if they win ( I can only guess what it must be like in South Kilkenny at the moment). If we do win it will crown the achievements of an awesome team - We havent been absent from 2 All Ireland Finals in a row since 1997. Since then its been a golden age and we're all lucky to be around to see it

[fort stranger1]

I will watch the match in the Irish Club in Wolverhampton and like every other year for the last ten years when I havent got home for the final,(no matter who we play) there will be me and one ould lad from Clara and another lad from Callan shouting for the cats and about 200 from every other county in Ireland shouting for the opposition. Never once in all that time did I hear anyone else shout for us.
In fairness they all come up to me after, win, lose or draw and shake my hand but it has to be seen to be believed how much we are well not so much disliked as envied by the other counties.
But do I care - long may it continue - sew it into em lads

[blaabuster]

on form we should be 7/8 points better than the blaas but form doesnt mean anything in all irelands so its 50/50, our experience of the big day will see us throu........ its show ur colours day in waterford on friday yet kk people workin in certain places there have been told they are not allowed to wear our colours..... typical waterford begrudgery

[aboyhoyneboy]

I will watch the match in the Irish Club in Wolverhampton and like every other year for the last ten years when I havent got home for the final,(no matter who we play) there will be me and one ould lad from Clara and another lad from Callan shouting for the cats and about 200 from every other county in Ireland shouting for the opposition. Never once in all that time did I hear anyone else shout for us.
In fairness they all come up to me after, win, lose or draw and shake my hand but it has to be seen to be believed how much we are well not so much disliked as envied by the other counties.
But do I care - long may it continue - sew it into em lads

Good work dude, keep fighting the good fight.

[Micko Mc]

on form we should be 7/8 points better than the blaas but form doesnt mean anything in all irelands so its 50/50, our experience of the big day will see us throu........ its show ur colours day in waterford on friday yet kk people workin in certain places there have been told they are not allowed to wear our colours..... typical waterford begrudgery

yawn

Back in 1998, both blue and white and black and amber colours were put up in Ardkeen as a lot of people from Kilkenny both work and get treated there.

Your name alone is a dead give away to your intentions anyways.

I'd like to know some of these places. I feel you are just bullshitting.

[meow]

on form we should be 7/8 points better than the blaas but form doesnt mean anything in all irelands so its 50/50, our experience of the big day will see us throu........ its show ur colours day in waterford on friday yet kk people workin in certain places there have been told they are not allowed to wear our colours..... typical waterford begrudgery

yawn

Back in 1998, both blue and white and black and amber colours were put up in Ardkeen as a lot of people from Kilkenny both work and get treated there.

Your name alone is a dead give away to your intentions anyways.

I'd like to know some of these places. I feel you are just bullshitting.

well i work in ardkeen and you are right usually never a bother put up the kilkenny colours and its all just a laugh but this year anytime we put up the black and amber they are taken down before the start of duty next day but at least we are nit alone they took down the tipp colours before the semi final aswell.... i'm workin again tomorrow i'll have another go at gettin the black and amber up hope it lasts till monday

[Rathpatrick Rock]

It's always been Kilkenny versus Munster and Galway.

[Rathpatrick Rock]

Leinster should stick together like the Munsters do when 1 of their ugly children gets to an Ireland against the cats.

[Rathpatrick Rock]

I totally agree. Kilkenny and Kerry are one and the same. Cynical. Much worse than the Northern teams, the two K's to about things in a sneaky underhand way

Cynical what about that lovely show of the stick on cha by Mr Tom Kenny on Cha under the ref's nose.

It's almost as contradictory as being called sneaky by a Corkman which would be described by a Corkman of course as a lack of observational skills by the other party lol

[Boul' Thady Quill]

I hope Waterford win because

A: They are a Munster team

B: They will stop Kilkenny going ahead on the Roll of Honour (Yeah, doing our job for us, but I'm not proud).

C: It would be nice to see some of Waterford's longest-serving players get an All-Ireland medal (Tony Brown, Ken McGrath, Paul Flynn [and they might take their eye off the ball then and stop bothering us])!

[saffron]

I'm from Antrim, but have always shouted for Kilkenny -- got the bug from my Da.

[GUL]

It's tricky. Who do I want to win, (well who do I want to loose more then who do I want to win.)
Who do I want to win, well..

Well there's pluses and negatives..
For KK, personally, I don't want KK to go ahead of us in the hall and I don't want KK to win the three in a row either.

But from a neutrals point of view, if I can call myself that.
KK as good as they are, I hate their game tactics, I hate their style.
Sure ya if Cork played like that and won I'd have no complaints but the KK tactics bore you to tears, it's and I know what response I'll get for this, but it's "Ulster football tactics", "puke hurling"..etc. But like I said, I'd have no complaints if we won with it. It's affective, just horrible to watch.
And I worry about it to a certain extent as well that Cork has never played that kind of hurling, not since like the 1920s and Cork might be too proud to change their style. We have this lovely flowing run at you type of game which is great to watch when it works. But to survive you need to adapt. That's how KK play, it's affective, it may not be real hurling but it wins you game. And to beat KK you need to beat them at their own game..so that will mean all the other teams trying to play like that which will lead to win hell of a shitty championship.
Like don't get me wrong. The days where a FB was a monster and could act like it, like The Rock..etc I liked, he's an old fashioned FB. But those days are gone unfortunately. But I don't mind this like that it's just the way the ENTIRE KK team play. I personally don't like it.
But we might have played beautiful hurling but we still lost. Oh the irony. I want KK to be worked and maybe beaten. They haven't had to work for much in a few seasons. If it's another KK walkover then hurling will be in a sad state and Leinster needs to be rapidly changed. Because a lot will have to do with how much Waterford have left to throw at KK.

For Waterford I'm sick to death of their I deserve it, divine right attitude.
You win an AI by winning an AI. Ya KK get a semi final place handed to them, but they still get their through Leinster. It might be the biggest pile of crap ever but it's not their fault. People keep saying it needs to be changed, it needs to be changed, but know one does anything, it's about time someone did.

But they go through their paces, what they have to do, it may not be much but they do it and get there. They get there..unlike Waterford.
You play your way to the final. Not because you feel you've the divine right for it. That and the kiss the crest Mullane, Big Dan type attitude. It is just so annoying.
Their fans as well are so arrogant. Like I'm used to snobby, arrogant KK fans, there are no other type, but they win all the time and have that attitude all the time. Waterford fans though, they've that irritating poor us we deserve and AI yet cocky attitude at the same time which will be doubled if they win. But in fairness to them they, unlike KK have turned up all season for the past God knows how long and have got no return, this year they might. KK fans show up for the final and get rewarded for it.

But then there's the fact that if Waterford win they'll break the mold which has been dominated by KK and Cork for the last decade or so.
A Waterford win would be a great boost for hurling in general.

So..who are the lesser of two evils.
KK's bad tactics or Waterford attitude. I honestly can't decide. But I think if I had to choose, I'd prefer, for hurlings sake, to preserve real hurling and to break the mold, I want Waterford to win.

[mealone42]

It's tricky. Who do I want to win, (well who do I want to loose more then who do I want to win.)
Who do I want to win, well..

Well there's pluses and negatives..
For KK, personally, I don't want KK to go ahead of us in the hall and I don't want KK to win the three in a row either.

But from a neutrals point of view, if I can call myself that.
KK as good as they are, I hate their game tactics, I hate their style.
Sure ya if Cork played like that and won I'd have no complaints but the KK tactics bore you to tears, it's and I know what response I'll get for this, but it's "Ulster football tactics", "puke hurling"..etc. But like I said, I'd have no complaints if we won with it. It's affective, just horrible to watch.
And I worry about it to a certain extent as well that Cork has never played that kind of hurling, not since like the 1920s and Cork might be too proud to change their style. We have this lovely flowing run at you type of game which is great to watch when it works. But to survive you need to adapt. That's how KK play, it's affective, it may not be real hurling but it wins you game. And to beat KK you need to beat them at their own game..so that will mean all the other teams trying to play like that which will lead to win hell of a shitty championship.
Like don't get me wrong. The days where a FB was a monster and could act like it, like The Rock..etc I liked, he's an old fashioned FB. But those days are gone unfortunately. But I don't mind this like that it's just the way the ENTIRE KK team play. I personally don't like it.
But we might have played beautiful hurling but we still lost. Oh the irony. I want KK to be worked and maybe beaten. They haven't had to work for much in a few seasons. If it's another KK walkover then hurling will be in a sad state and Leinster needs to be rapidly changed. Because a lot will have to do with how much Waterford have left to throw at KK.

For Waterford I'm sick to death of their I deserve it, divine right attitude.
You win an AI by winning an AI. Ya KK get a semi final place handed to them, but they still get their through Leinster. It might be the biggest pile of crap ever but it's not their fault. People keep saying it needs to be changed, it needs to be changed, but know one does anything, it's about time someone did.

But they go through their paces, what they have to do, it may not be much but they do it and get there. They get there..unlike Waterford.
You play your way to the final. Not because you feel you've the divine right for it. That and the kiss the crest Mullane, Big Dan type attitude. It is just so annoying.
Their fans as well are so arrogant. Like I'm used to snobby, arrogant KK fans, there are no other type, but they win all the time and have that attitude all the time. Waterford fans though, they've that irritating poor us we deserve and AI yet cocky attitude at the same time which will be doubled if they win. But in fairness to them they, unlike KK have turned up all season for the past God knows how long and have got no return, this year they might. KK fans show up for the final and get rewarded for it.

But then there's the fact that if Waterford win they'll break the mold which has been dominated by KK and Cork for the last decade or so.
A Waterford win would be a great boost for hurling in general.

So..who are the lesser of two evils.
KK's bad tactics or Waterford attitude. I honestly can't decide. But I think if I had to choose, I'd prefer, for hurlings sake, to preserve real hurling and to break the mold, I want Waterford to win.

After that load of s**t which proves that you have no hurling knowledge at all. To knock KK for their tested and proven skill and to have the cheek to say that because you dont like it........ and you are????
As if we give a s**t. When your team learns how to win again, go to back room

[GUL]

It's tricky. Who do I want to win, (well who do I want to loose more then who do I want to win.)
Who do I want to win, well..

Well there's pluses and negatives..
For KK, personally, I don't want KK to go ahead of us in the hall and I don't want KK to win the three in a row either.

But from a neutrals point of view, if I can call myself that.
KK as good as they are, I hate their game tactics, I hate their style.
Sure ya if Cork played like that and won I'd have no complaints but the KK tactics bore you to tears, it's and I know what response I'll get for this, but it's "Ulster football tactics", "puke hurling"..etc. But like I said, I'd have no complaints if we won with it. It's affective, just horrible to watch.
And I worry about it to a certain extent as well that Cork has never played that kind of hurling, not since like the 1920s and Cork might be too proud to change their style. We have this lovely flowing run at you type of game which is great to watch when it works. But to survive you need to adapt. That's how KK play, it's affective, it may not be real hurling but it wins you game. And to beat KK you need to beat them at their own game..so that will mean all the other teams trying to play like that which will lead to win hell of a shitty championship.
Like don't get me wrong. The days where a FB was a monster and could act like it, like The Rock..etc I liked, he's an old fashioned FB. But those days are gone unfortunately. But I don't mind this like that it's just the way the ENTIRE KK team play. I personally don't like it.
But we might have played beautiful hurling but we still lost. Oh the irony. I want KK to be worked and maybe beaten. They haven't had to work for much in a few seasons. If it's another KK walkover then hurling will be in a sad state and Leinster needs to be rapidly changed. Because a lot will have to do with how much Waterford have left to throw at KK.

For Waterford I'm sick to death of their I deserve it, divine right attitude.
You win an AI by winning an AI. Ya KK get a semi final place handed to them, but they still get their through Leinster. It might be the biggest pile of crap ever but it's not their fault. People keep saying it needs to be changed, it needs to be changed, but know one does anything, it's about time someone did.

But they go through their paces, what they have to do, it may not be much but they do it and get there. They get there..unlike Waterford.
You play your way to the final. Not because you feel you've the divine right for it. That and the kiss the crest Mullane, Big Dan type attitude. It is just so annoying.
Their fans as well are so arrogant. Like I'm used to snobby, arrogant KK fans, there are no other type, but they win all the time and have that attitude all the time. Waterford fans though, they've that irritating poor us we deserve and AI yet cocky attitude at the same time which will be doubled if they win. But in fairness to them they, unlike KK have turned up all season for the past God knows how long and have got no return, this year they might. KK fans show up for the final and get rewarded for it.

But then there's the fact that if Waterford win they'll break the mold which has been dominated by KK and Cork for the last decade or so.
A Waterford win would be a great boost for hurling in general.

So..who are the lesser of two evils.
KK's bad tactics or Waterford attitude. I honestly can't decide. But I think if I had to choose, I'd prefer, for hurlings sake, to preserve real hurling and to break the mold, I want Waterford to win.

After that load of s**t which proves that you have no hurling knowledge at all. To knock KK for their tested and proven skill and to have the cheek to say that because you dont like it........ and you are????
As if we give a s**t. When your team learns how to win again, go to back room

And your problem is..last time I checked the heading was who do fans outside KK think will win..I answered. Now we don't get everything handed to us on a silver platter.
Really like, grow up.

[samsays]

WATERFORD



SAMSAYS

[saffron]

Dear Gul

your "lovely running at you style of hurling" has more relationship to football tactics - whether from Ulster or not - than Kilkenny's hurling. And, by the way, the way Tyrone play fooball at the minute seems to be quite exciting, doesn't it? Kilkenny hurling has always been, and still is, full of the skills of the game - all the skills of the game, which include tight marking, strength under the dropping ball, as well as the flicks and stickwork which is their hallmark. Stop reading the papers and actually look with unblinkered eyes at a Kilkenny team playing.

[GUL]

Dear Gul

your "lovely running at you style of hurling" has more relationship to football tactics - whether from Ulster or not - than Kilkenny's hurling. And, by the way, the way Tyrone play fooball at the minute seems to be quite exciting, doesn't it? Kilkenny hurling has always been, and still is, full of the skills of the game - all the skills of the game, which include tight marking, strength under the dropping ball, as well as the flicks and stickwork which is their hallmark. Stop reading the papers and actually look with unblinkered eyes at a Kilkenny team playing.

Our game plan was to run at a team, with the likes of Naughton, Kenny..etc. It's how the football play it as well to an extent.
I love the way Tyrone play football, I want them to win the AI, but they'd be the exception to that Ulster rule.
Papers, all the papers do is lick yere hole, all they do is praise ye.

Yere hurling it may be full of great skill but it's now been taken over a bit by this style, because it's also full of crap such as holding players back with their stick, 3 or 4 players surrounding one of the other players and flattening them, cheap shots off the ball as well might at ad, poor Naughton went home with a hurley imprinted into his back. It's just yere type of play in general, as good and affective as it can be at times, it's not the easiest on the eyes.

[saffron]

Hi Gul

I am not from Kilkenny.