Who Do Non Kilkenny People Want To Win?

[Micko Mc]

Would rather see KK as winners.

Waterford would tend to get on your wick a lot more. Badge kissing and guestering to the crowd when hammering the snot out of Laois/Antrim. Some Waterford fans you would run into at matches would leave a bad, lasting impression on you also.

Tipptops lowers head and shuffles out the door quitely.

Eoin Kelly in the Antrim game put it up to the Antrim player as the Antrim player nearly knocked teeth of his head previously in that game.

Ironic that this came up considering a previous posters comments on Waterford's dental record.

[Linethepitch]

if the blaas had to concentrate on hurling instead of acting up to the crowd(mullane, toothless, kelly etc) they might have that all ireland at this stage. too much class in the cats for the blaas.one of the greatest teams of all time this current crop. if they can keep the hunger and desire they are capable of winning 6 in a row. it must be tough though on the body all that tough training.

[samsays]

WATERFORD

[gael]

I swear to God if I keep hearing how KK keep playing the game on the edge, or play puke hurling. It's now very clear to me that the people making these remarks either never played the game, or only played it till the were U14 and were just pure shite. Hurlers on the ditch!!!

If you go through the history of the game, every team had a couple of hard men. Jesus I used to love watching Sylvey Lenane and Harry Ryan go at it. What about the 50's, 60's and 70's, where keepers were fair game. Every full back in the country was a tough whoor.

KK over the last 10 years have raised the bar and the approach to the game. I thought last years AI couldn't get any better, but the semi-final this year against Cork was magical - fielding, Larkin and Lyng's solo runs, point scoring, blockling, tackling, it had everything. If you want a lesson on how to play the game, go watch that game again. It was a hard hitting exciting game.
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I don't know why (a)everyone is on about KK being dirty and (b) KK are so sensitive about it.
No team ever won anything without a few scuts in their line-up. And when I'm playing, I'd rather that our crowd would have the scuts rather than the opposition.

Sylvie V Harry was some craic allright.
What about E Cloonan V eddie O'connor too
John Leahy v John O'connor/Stephen Frampton
Liam Dunne v Power
Ger henderson v Lynskey

great stuff altogether

[Moggy]

I spend most of my days travelling around Leinster & Munster and the majority of the people i have met in Kerry,Cork,Tipp and Limerick are shouting for KK.Any Dublin HURLING fans i met are the same and no other county in Leinster has benefitted from Kilkennys help behind the scenes in recent years that Dublin.There is great respect for this team and management in those counties and like everything in life people love winners.I will never forget Waterford fans in The Big Tree after beating Cork in the Qrt final last year.Totally dismissed Limerick.They were sneering and jeering like theyd won the final.Genuine decent Cork fans were disgusted.They have no grace in either victory or defeat.They are arrogant without the pedigree or ability to back it up.My oul fella told me the other day that he would prefer to be beaten by Tipp in a All Ireland than Waterford cos at least Tipp know how to win one and have they have a tradition of winning them and he hates Tipp!!!Blaahs my Arse!!!

[gael]

. take the great ken mcgrath. in 2006 he had a shot at greatness, the point that would equalise the semi vs cork. he had struck his frees beautifully all day. when the big one came his technique failed. he no longer took a measured lift and strike, he launched it up and lashed it. He should never have given Donal og that chance to ad another talking point to his long list.

He struck it well as far as i remember, Was it not out beyond midfield, out the wing + with a wet ball?? It still would have cleared the bar only for cusack made a great save

[JasonSherlocksBoot]

I'm from Dublin and actually want Waterford to win. No offence to KK as I respect them in their domination of the Hurley Championship over the last few years, but for me it comes down to who I'd prefer watch and Kilkenny's tactics, for me, are underhand. Waterford play the glamour ball. Give me Mullane running at defences way ahead of Shefflin holding a hurley and making a big catch.

That being said, I'd rather see an entertaining draw than a borefest Waterford win. Kilkenny have the tendency to ruin All Ireland finals (good tactics, but very negative to the game), so the odds of something entertaining on the 7th September is very unlikely.

If you ask me, Kilkenny's tactics are a bigger threat to the game than the GPA and Cork player strikes combined.

You are not from Dublin.

You may be a blaa living in Dublin. and yes, I also saw your letter written under a different name, in the Indo.

Gripe all you will, but facts are facts.

This kk team, win lose or draw on the 7th, will go down as one of the greatest of all time, if not the greatest.

Incredible skill, teamwork, drive and craft have enabled them to be the very best this decade.

You want to talk dirty?........Mullane's pull in the semi.

And you would never see a KK player showboat in the ugliest fashion possible, after scoring a lucky tap in goal.

Again, stop saying you are a Dub. I am a cat living and married in Dublin, and very few people I see on a daily basis want Waterford to win.
They would rather support the Leinster team.

They are not alone.

I'm from Dublin, born there, hurled there and lived there all my life. I've no idea what you're talking about (and a few others also) about me writing a letter in the Indo. Fact is, I've wouldn't wipe my arse with the Indo. I'm a 'Times man.

Finally, if this Kilkenny team "goes down as the greatest", I'll be glad that I was around to know (and tell others) the truth.

[Verticalstripes]

Finally, if this Kilkenny team "goes down as the greatest", I'll be glad that I was around to know (and tell others) the truth.

You would be a great lad to write an alternative history novel, make up a new reality that suits you better.

Long live the fear.

[Debanks]

I'm afraid a lot on this thread are dilusional if they are under the impression that most of the country are looking for a KK win. Wise up lads!
This is not taking from KK being a great team who play lovely hurling and who will probably win.
Most people will support the underdog and I do too,of course I have a vested interest too being a Cork man I also think it petty for non KK fans to be hoping for a KK win for such flimsy excuses,ie; a waterford fan stepped on my toe coming out of a match,Mullane gets on my nerves showboating etc.
If Waterford do win stand by for a baby and child invasion at the final whistle!

[Linethepitch]

[quote="Debanks"]of course I have a vested interest too being a Cork man

you are aware kilkenny beat cork in the semi final, or did u just crawl out from a cave. its kilkenny and waterford in the final boi!!!

[Captain Scarlet]

I'm afraid a lot on this thread are dilusional if they are under the impression that most of the country are looking for a KK win.

The thread has never stated that.
But what it does say clearly, is that it is not 31 v 1.
And Waterford despite their underdog tag do not have as much backing as an under dogs would have normally.
The reason appears to be priamarily caused by their lack of humility in both victory and defeat from both players and supporters which has even brought the two hurling greatest rivals of all time Tipp and KK to a mutual understanding.

As I said at the start, I can understand Cork's view on this. The number 31 has a different meaning to them.

This thread is about the heart, not the head.

[johnpower]

sorry, double post.

[johnpower]

I posed this question to mates of mine from Wexford, Limerick, Cork, Clare and Galway and all, even the yellow belly and the rebel are shouting for the Cats!!

The reasons they all stated are outlined by Captain Scarlet along with the fact that some also admire this team of Cats.

[Debanks]

of course I have a vested interest too being a Cork man

you are aware kilkenny beat cork in the semi final, or did u just crawl out from a cave. its kilkenny and waterford in the final boi!!!

Linesman the vested interest as a Corkman is that we have 30, KK also have,so it would be in our counties interest if KK were beaten

[Debanks]

I'm afraid a lot on this thread are dilusional if they are under the impression that most of the country are looking for a KK win.

The thread has never stated that.
But what it does say clearly, is that it is not 31 v 1.
And Waterford despite their underdog tag do not have as much backing as an under dogs would have normally.
The reason appears to be priamarily caused by their lack of humility in both victory and defeat from both players and supporters which has even brought the two hurling greatest rivals of all time Tipp and KK to a mutual understanding.

As I said at the start, I can understand Cork's view on this. The number 31 has a different meaning to them.

This thread is about the heart, not the head.

Point taken Captain,I would put their lack of humility down to lack of experience in winning the big games.I have seen the "lack of humility" in lots of county fans, cork included,one abusive encounter with the oppisition fan taint our heart and minds.

[hellskitchen]

I’ve spoken to a lot of Kerry people lately and they all want Kilkenny to win. Probably as a result of mutual admiration in chosen sports. The same is true of Tipperary supporters who’s dislike of the Waterford supporter, particularly in the South has grown hand in hand with the same dislike in by people in South Kilkenny. However, in Tipp it is being quietly mentioned, as they don’t really want to be seen vocally supporting us. I am also led to believe that we have strong support in the North, especially in Antrim. Cork would obviously prefer us not to win, again for obvious reasons, which is completely understandable and you could certainly not bear them any animosity for that.

I'm sorry, but given the arogance that a lot of Tipp fans showed before the Waterford vs Tipp game I'm amazed its not the other way around.

If you want bile go over onto premierview and see all the negative threads about Waterford. The Tipp boys were cock sure of themselves and are acting like bad losers at the moment.


It has almost become fashionable at this stage to criticise Waterford for the same bullshit reasons.

How many fans so far since the Tipp game have you seen come on here spouting bullshit ?

how was it arrogance? based on all known form tipp were favourites for that game. waterford hadnt produced a performance since 2007. and luckily for them and unluckily for us they produced one and beat us. why? because they had 4 forwards who played well on the day compared to 2 for us.



i hope waterford win anyway. hurling needs it. it will be the last big break through for a while if it happens.

i dunno where all this anti-waterford stuff is comin from. so what if they kiss their jerseys and play to the crowd after a score. at least its somethin different. gives people like us on/in forums/sewing circles sumtin to talk/moan/whinge/**** about. wouldnt it be very boring if all the teams acted the same. they're city boys for cryin out loud! they play an excitin brand of hurlin and they've been involved in some of the great games in past 10 years. and players like tony browne and ken mcgrath do deserve their big day out in september. they dont deserve the all ireland though. they'll have to earn that

[polaris]

As a Corkman, I would tolerate Waterford winning the final this year. They play exciting hurling, have a couple of all-time great players, it would be good for the game and would have the added bonus of stopping kilkenny's 3 in a row and making it to 31 before us.

However, because of all the showboating, bringing their kids onto the pitch and the arrogance of their fans they would quickly outstay their welcome as champions.

I'd be sick of them by the end of that evening's Sunday Game!

[RedRebel]

As a Corkman, I would tolerate Waterford winning the final this year. They play exciting hurling, have a couple of all-time great players, it would be good for the game and would have the added bonus of stopping kilkenny's 3 in a row and making it to 31 before us.

However, because of all the showboating, bringing their kids onto the pitch and the arrogance of their fans they would quickly outstay their welcome as champions.

I'd be sick of them by the end of that evening's Sunday Game!

Just wondering what you find so offensive about players bringing their kids onto the pitch?

[MoSzizlak]

As a Corkman, I would tolerate Waterford winning the final this year. They play exciting hurling, have a couple of all-time great players, it would be good for the game and would have the added bonus of stopping kilkenny's 3 in a row and making it to 31 before us.

However, because of all the showboating, bringing their kids onto the pitch and the arrogance of their fans they would quickly outstay their welcome as champions.

I'd be sick of them by the end of that evening's Sunday Game!

Just wondering what you find so offensive about players bringing their kids onto the pitch?

Jebus if they do pull it off i hope they have the sense not to bring young kids onto the pitch at full time. Could be very dangerous place to be with 40K Blaas celebrating on the pitch in front of the hogan stand.

[Verticalstripes]

They play exciting hurling

Can you tell me (maybe 3 examples) of what they are doing different to other normal inter-county teams that makes then exciting? **

**leaping around after scoring does not constitute "exciting hurling"?